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I am so for these fines!!! NYC taxi …

Posted by on May 23, 2013

Comment posted Hail no! Cabbies refuse boroughs by Junie.

I am so for these fines!!! NYC taxi cab includes all boroughs. I am a tired of having to deal with terrible treatment because of other people doings. I can care less about people jumping out of cabs, or your need to use the bathroom. It comes with the job! you know the stakes! if you can not complete the duties u signed up for then simply, find another job! IT is the worst. TO have to stand in the pouring down rain/cold/snow. to get from my job in the downtown area to my home in the bronx. I once even had a taxi who realized that my destination was in the bronx; try to drop me off at the bridge. 11:30pm. He tried to make me get out the car! because he refused to go to the bronx. PISS! is an understatement! all in all. it is even sadder that today; I am trying to find a way home from my job because I refuse to trust this faulty yellow cab system. who picks and choose where they feel like going. Just like you have people who may jump out on the fare, u have cab drivers who are charging higher rates to pocket some of my hard working money. it is a chance u and I are both taking. The sadder thing is you get paid to take it.

Junie also commented

  • Please read two comments written by me just before your posting. I pledge here one more time that I WILL GO THROUGH TLC PROCEDURE TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM ONCE AND FOR ALL. Just give me some time by this summer. I have a dozen more innovative solutions to improve taxi service for drivers and 300 million riders a year(? this I am not sure). I studied French in my country which is not good at making money but I studied marketing in US and I will do my work to increase the size of pie currently shrinking and nibbled up by rats and bugs. We have problems in four Ps: Product (taxi service nobody is doing nothing new in this system) Place (distribution of service to outerboros) Promotion (except for all others on rooftops) Price (fare and leasing fee). I found my purpose.
  • This outerboro cab plan may be good for residents but only intraboro not interboro needs. Queen-based cab will refuse to go to Staten Island or Bronx, and Bronx to Staten Island. They all should hate to come to Manhattan in theory but they will love to come into Manhattan let’s say in evening. Now how passengers will return to their boros late at night? By yellow cabs legally in theory, but they will take available outerboro cabs conveniently. Now the city made a precedent whatever illegal practiced long enough will be recognized and rewarded into legality. Maybe illegal gun buying too? Now I am going too far off the subject. The big difference is restrained practice with illegality keeping undesirable outcomes at bay versus rampant practice with legality right in front of face. This game constraints are: 1> more outerboro residents will come into exclusive yellow cab territory which is Manhattan 2> illegal for other cabs to pick up 3> yellow cabs don’t like to go outerboro when busy but can’t allow outerboro cabs picking up either. THE WINNER OF THE GAME IS: THE ONE who will enable all passengers to go out of Manhattan paying no extra fare without any refusal by Yellow Cabdrivers who will LOVE to go anytime anywhere in NYC. Nobody solved this so far. I like to solve it in an innovative way.
  • We, as drivers and riding public, are all victims of incompetent system of NYC transportation. Tell me any other mode of mobility within NYC which is smooth, efficient, hassle free making sence: MTA subway, bus, car service, pedicap, bike, horse carriage, food vendor cart, delivery truck, discout long distant bus, ferry, preventible elevator or helicopter accident – as I mentioned it, I have an eerie feeling of one coming soon, knock knock. I had it myself and I am determined to do something to solve the ongoing problem at least this outerboro refusal by taxi in innovative way. This has to be solved for five boroughs under the one name of great NYC. See what contribution we will make to the development of Bushwick community if residents have easy access to Manhattan. Our adorable mayor ( I mean it he brought 55 million record tourists last year) needs some help. I pledge myself here openly so that I make myself more committed and accountable.
  • Why doesnt TLC make customers pay for outer boroughs first,,,with $ or cc?
    If fare is less they get return funds? Its so simple. The tlc doesnt care if the passenger runs away. They say file police report, then we lose $50 more for waiting in police station?
  • If you tried to catch the cab at about 4pm -5pm it could be true that the shift change for most. if not, you got screwed!

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  1. CreditCardCabbie on February 25, 2011 at 10:33 pm said:

    Why any cabdriver wants to refuse to take passengers to Brooklyn or Queens? … His/her shift is about to end, and no way to get back in time to the garage. Fleets love to charge Late fees and Shift Excess Time Surchage. These additional charges at the garages are a lot more than cabbie makes with the outer borough fares. In addition, NOT fair to the next driver to bring that cab an hour later or so. Furthermore, the cabbie may need to refuse the borough (10 Miles or longer) fare because he/she didn’t have a chance to use a restroom, or he/she was continuously busy in the last 2-3 hours. Does the TLC or the Mayor Michael Bloom­berg have an idea how hard is to drive a cab non-stop and NO chance to use a restroom, and now they wanted double the fines?

  2. Tash on February 25, 2011 at 11:37 pm said:

    Because when you go to Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens you have to cross the bridges or the tunnels and there is always traffic at these bridges and tunnels specially at the pick hours and some customers can’t handle the traffice and start getting cranky although cab drivers can hanle the traffic as we are used to it.

  3. Anonymous on February 26, 2011 at 5:59 am said:

    Can’t you see the writing on the wall: This is all B.S.Very few drivers refuse fares. This is just posturing for the overall agenda to flood the streets with metered livery taxis in the name of “PUBLIC INTEREST”

  4. Weekly driver on February 26, 2011 at 2:31 pm said:

    In addition, DO the media talks about how many cabdrivers DIDN’T get paid (specially in the night shift) to go to Bronx, Brooklyn and Queens, simply because riders jump out without paying for the cab ride? However, there is no cab security camera, no cops around, and no help either! The regulators are interested only in refusal’s data, but not keeping records on unpaid taxi fares. Unfortunately most cabdrivers does not report such incidents, because they feel is wasted time at the police precincts, and does not solve any problems. There is a way to change that, and the TLC should care too, about driver’s inputs! It’s wrong to believe the cabbies don’t care, but they need the tools and the help from all of us. My goal is to be best, and I make sure all my riders get the top notch taxi services, and treat them the way I would like be treated when I’m a passenger. If you care too, this shouldn’t be a problem!

  5. Charles T on February 26, 2011 at 7:59 pm said:

    Credit Card Cabbie is finally right on this one!
    Also after 8 PM at night passengers should have to post a $20 bond towards their rides. If they jump out you dont lose the whole ride. If they pay by credit card they get it back.

  6. Ramirez on February 26, 2011 at 9:27 pm said:

    What are the lazy cabdrivers thinking about this? Could you pay fines from $500 to $750? Could you support your family? Could you take the risk every day, because these people desperately want all your money? This is going on for decades, and remember what the TLC said before they installed the GPS? “More income for the drivers and ….” Time to get back to a drawing board and every cabdriver should be involved, because is getting worse. It’s time to build a better future! Are you ready for a change? If we don’t see the problem, we cannot fix it! Together everything is possible!

  7. Cabbie Muse on February 28, 2011 at 9:20 am said:

    It is too bad that the TLC is not an altruistic agency that not only regulates but tries to facilitate the industry at least to the point of not PULLING IT APART AND GIVING IT TO OTHER PEOPLE. Once 30,000 yellows in NYC, now 13,000, I think that a court case MUST COMMENCE the minute TLC proclaims outer borough liveries can now pick up hails. Because there are plenty of medallions on the street that were purchased at auction from the City of New York, that MEANS LOUD AND CLEAR, that the exclusivity of geography, and plenty of other rights that were purchased, if they are eroded and reduced, big lawsuit and city has to buy back the medallions and pay $500,000 as a kicker for the trouble and work, and investment by the purchaser into running those individual medallions. Who else is going to run for mayor next election? The NYC yellow industry should start looking for candidates who are more “real people” friendly.

  8. Anonymous on February 28, 2011 at 9:27 pm said:

    In a tough traffic situation neither cabbie nor rider wants to go to the outer boroughs that require huge traffic at bridges & tunnels. The old-hand riders KNOW not to take a cab to outer boroughs, going to cost a FORTUNE. It is the neophytes who at high traffic time try to get a cab to those outer boroughs, and I have had one leave me stranded in the traffic because they could not afford to continue the RIDE!!! A real loser. Is someone trying to KICK UP THE DUST and create the impression that there are loads of riders wanting to go to the outer boroughs in high traffic time for high bucks? Aren’t the regulators known for picking one complaint and using it to accomplish their list of things they want to do, their purpose, like giving hail rights to outer borough liveries? I don’t think so, big court case coming up.

  9. Dershowitz Cabbie on February 28, 2011 at 9:31 pm said:

    Says WHO? Let’s see the written complaints. By the numbers:
    From the article. Number of refusals by cab drivers to go to outer boroughs:
    July-Dec. 2010: 2,341 — says who – let’s see the evidence, talk is cheap
    July-Dec. 2009: 1,693 — says who – let’s see the evidence, talk is cheap

  10. bernard ross on March 2, 2011 at 5:44 pm said:

    just before Christmas 18 dec sat afternoon, my `16 year old out of town son was on a school bus from his school in sheffield MA to penn station. He waited for almost 2 hours at penn on a dispatchers taxi line, on a freezing cold evening, and the dispatcher could get no cab to take him to the bronx, pelham gardens, near pelham parkway and Htchinson(almost all parkway drive). A taxi driver was tricked with a manhattan address who finally took him and then when he told him where he was going he dropped him in the street. It was a passing asian cab driver who gave hin the break and took him. I know from his experience it is a nightmare. He is making the same journey this sat 5 mar2011 about 4pm. I am on this site because he does not know NY and needs a cab but the only licensed cabs wont take him. Perhaps one of those drivers who says it does not happen can take him this Saturday

  11. "the Black Dr." on March 3, 2011 at 9:00 am said:

    Oh yeah??? Please give me a break I am a limo driver black car, cab, whatever, with all the appropriate licences… And yes I am BLACK a lot of the refusal is about fear, color and greed, ok the base fees are high you gotta get ur money…but this job is also about serving passengers in the industry…see the greed is when drivers get used to people getting out one door at the same time others getting in the other..oh it’s like that in Manhattan..the average outer boro request is maybe twice a day..that’s called balance…those people need to be serviced as well as others… and the racial profiling is rampant…That little girl who (represents) the taxi industry is inexperienced and way way off message..just perpetuating the profiling crap…some drivers have no idea about the urban cultures so they steer clear… I work in a suit and tie and still I get passed by oh!! and by other black drivers as well crap, crap, crap the tlc really need to spike the integrity check systems putting many more decoys on the street and if you get caught braking the rules like any thing else you get what’s commin to ya….RULES ARE RULES..I do 16 hour day’s AD’S I don’t alway’s like the passengers I get however i give them even better service as a challenge to my own integrity…in conclusion everybody pay’s the TLC for lic fees and so on the insurance is just as high..Why should Manhattan be the yellow cab mecca???? and why do you (know who you are) continue to break the rules and then complain when you get caught and have to pay..I say raise the fines to the ceiling make it hurt!!!

  12. bernard ross on March 3, 2011 at 3:26 pm said:

    the medallion system is not fair to the customer and taxpayer. If livery drivers were also allowed to pick up passengers by street hail in Manhattan the problem of taxi drivers refusing to go to the boroughs would disappear because the livery drives would accept the business that the yellow cab drivers refuse. I posted my sons experience earlier on and have now discovered that the penn station dispatcher who colluded with the yellow cab drivers keeping my son waiting in the freezing cold for nearly 2 hours had the authority to issue summonses: yet he was facilitating the breaking of the law. In my opinion he should be fired. I will continue writing to the authorities, and filing complaints with the TLC, until my son can get a taxi to the bronx from penn station. When my son goes this saturday he will have paper and pen to take down the dispatchers info and the medallion numbers of the taxis refusing the destination request. I will be in touch with hm by celphone and will call 911 if disaptcher allow taxis refusing him to pickup others. I have written to Lassky of TLC and advised him to send the ” university shoppers” to these dispatching lines also. Most of the refusing drivers used the going off shift excuse. That is a lot of drivers in a row going off shift at the same time. they were allowed to pick up other customers instead of being given summonses. These drivers do not deserve the medallions, it is just another type of monopoly that is defrauding the taxpayer. I only received one email from a yellow cab driver decrying the incident. brenrod@yahoo.com

  13. Abe on March 3, 2011 at 5:42 pm said:

    Bernard,

    Although I think it is wrong to be refused service, The issue of non medallion taxis given the right to pick up business in Manhattan I can’t go along with. I worked for over 30 years to earn the rights I have as a medallion owner. Just because there are a few bad apples in the bunch an entire industry shouldn’t be sold to the devil.

    If you want to file a complaint against drivers who refuse service, you have that right. All good taxi drivers would support this right. Don’t call 911 that is for emergencies, you want to call 311.

  14. anonymous on March 5, 2011 at 4:27 pm said:

    New York Taxi drivers are racist, and don’t want to work. You almost have to jump in front of them for some of them to stop. Don’t be in a rush most of them don’t want to work between 3:30 and 4:10pm. Many refuse to go to certain places still, and it’s sad that it makes you want to punch them in the face when they ask you where you going then leave.

  15. Ramirez on March 5, 2011 at 5:38 pm said:

    to “anonymous”! – It must be something about you, why New York Taxi drivers don’t want to pick you up?

  16. Mustafa amin on March 6, 2011 at 5:01 am said:

    Bernard, your son must be a nerd, hes 16, let him fight his own battles.
    He will always be a wimp if you are always talking for him. Give him a backbone. Cab drivers do go off shift 4pm -5pm. Wake up smell the coffee and stop complaining.

  17. Livery car drivers on March 6, 2011 at 9:07 pm said:

    Bogus comments put on this site by livery car drivers? Cute idea, soon as they heard a mention by Yassky that Outer Borough livery cars might get meters and hail rights. I remember when some guy wrote in that the cabs were filthy — I doubt it — especially those playing the airports, they don’t want to be refused at the dispatch gate for a filthy cab. I always suspected that it was livery car drivers or their friends put up to making those complaints.

  18. Cabbie Buster on March 6, 2011 at 9:20 pm said:

    Sad, but some people with power see a way to pull money themselves out of a $ billion business like NYC yellow cabs. Cabbies and individual medallion owners don’t unite to fight it because it isand was too hard to believe that for the last 10 years, a few powerful people sat down, listed step by step how to bust the NYC cab business, start taking gobs of cash out of it, and then did it.. No amount is too big to take away from individual medallion operators, and no amount is too big to take away from cabbies’ salaries. Plus a lot of just ass busting ideas like writing down where the cabbies can’t pick up!!! Then giving them citations. These few powerful people have become SO BOLD that now they are going to decrease the exclusive medallion rights for all 5 borough hails. And, as it is, already, hail rights for livery cars in the outer boroughs DO NOT HELP Manhattan riders get to Brooklyn or Queens!! At livery driver change time, no livery driver going to take anyone to Brooklyn when they are putting up in another borough. As it is right now, a Manhattan commuter or rider could arrange every single day for a pick-up by an outer borough livery car to take them home during commuter time. Why don’t they do it? And who is it that calls the TLC and makes those complaints? It is all B.S. and the busting of the NYC yellow cab business. Do the fleet rental garages who represent about 2/3 of the running NYC yellow fleet or 6500 medallions care whether the territory is exclusive? They do not care a rat’s patootie because there are some cabbies who will rent a cab if they only make $25 a day — students who will driver and do their homework between jobs. The fleets will always rent their cabs, but the individual medallions will not be able to make their money — and must guard against being busted. You know, these medallion owners can go to court and ask for a declaratory judgement, whether the City of New York can suddenly reduce exclusivity of borough hails after selling how many medallions? 400 or so with those exclusivity rights. And no one has confirmed whether the back seat gold will be in the livery cars — of course they will because the owners of the livery dispatch services will get a huge card-swipe cut!!! Again, the drivers will get the shaft and every job will be a card-swipe.

  19. alan on March 8, 2011 at 7:14 pm said:

    I am a taxi driver not a writer. My letter was about tipping the driver not about drunk people. If you dont see it than i feel sorry about you .i ll tell everybody never use website and try to find more intelegent people to deal with.

  20. Dee on March 8, 2011 at 10:41 pm said:

    First of all I would say that you’re wrong. They don’t have a right to refuse service, as you read in the article, it’s ILLEGAL for a taxi driver to refuse to take a client to another borough. I never comment on these things b/c it’s usually a waste of time but this one really gets me upset. I’m from NYC, born and raised. I live in the Bronx and I absolutely hate when I try to catch a cab and they tell me they don’t want to. The fact is that you cannot do that, it against the law. This practice is discriminatory and I don’t like it. And what do you know about the Bronx? Maybe you don’t waste your time there but plenty of hard working people who live there and would like to a taxi home, now is that a crime? That b/c they live in the Bronx (which has a bad rep. but most ppl who talk carp about it haven’t even been there) shouldn’t have the luxury of taking a yellow cab?

  21. Jmckin on March 9, 2011 at 6:30 pm said:

    As someone who has been denied cab rides from uptown to downtown more than a few times (and I’m a relatively affluent-looking young female – in other words, not threatening at all) I believe that cabbies are picking and choosing fares ALL THE TIME. Not going to the Bronx or Bklyn isn’t a huge stretch of the imagination.

    If you don’t want livery cabs infringing on your potential fares then you shouldn’t have the right to pick and choose where you take passengers within NYC. It’s absurd and annoying to not be able to catch a ride from the UES to Chelsea or wherever. Have people give you $20 or a credit card before you take them somewhere if it reduces the risk of fare-jumpers. But for pete’s sake don’t pretend it never happens.

  22. Anonymous on March 9, 2011 at 8:51 pm said:

    My mother-in-law sees doctors in Manhattan near NYU Medical Center and lives in Brooklyn. She has been denied rides back to Brooklyn although she’d be more than happy to pay whatever fare, especially since walking has become more difficult for her. She was denied a ride after a procedure in the dr’s office, and again recently after a visit to the hospital. She was able to take the subway this last time, but the next time she has a procedure, I will need to drive in from NJ, drive her to Brooklyn, and then drive home. How do the cab drivers respond to this? If the only way to accommodate the elderly is to be able to hail a livery cab, then maybe that’s the only solution for someone like my mother-in-law.

  23. Junie on March 10, 2011 at 11:38 pm said:

    I am so for these fines!!! NYC taxi cab includes all boroughs. I am a tired of having to deal with terrible treatment because of other people doings. I can care less about people jumping out of cabs, or your need to use the bathroom. It comes with the job! you know the stakes! if you can not complete the duties u signed up for then simply, find another job! IT is the worst. TO have to stand in the pouring down rain/cold/snow. to get from my job in the downtown area to my home in the bronx. I once even had a taxi who realized that my destination was in the bronx; try to drop me off at the bridge. 11:30pm. He tried to make me get out the car! because he refused to go to the bronx. PISS! is an understatement! all in all. it is even sadder that today; I am trying to find a way home from my job because I refuse to trust this faulty yellow cab system. who picks and choose where they feel like going. Just like you have people who may jump out on the fare, u have cab drivers who are charging higher rates to pocket some of my hard working money. it is a chance u and I are both taking. The sadder thing is you get paid to take it.

  24. Tom on March 11, 2011 at 11:18 am said:

    I have been turned down so many times trying to get to Forest Hills in Queens that I have lost count. I didn’t know you could testify on the phone in TLC court and now that I know that, I will def call 311 and go to trial to make sure this is on the cab drivers record. If everyone complained to 311 when this happened (remember, get the cab number, cab driver’s name and TLC license #) and more cabs were fined, they would stop this behaviour.

    Now, I get why they don’t want to bring me there…no return fare…but I didn ‘t write the rules. Maybe they should petition the TLC to add some sort of out of bourough surcharge. Maybe an extra $5 or something.

  25. Just a thought on March 12, 2011 at 4:32 pm said:

    An experienced cab driver has an instinct about his/her passengers by the way they hail the cab, or the look of urgency in their eyes. Read a person’s body language before you even stop for them and you can avoid the fines. When driving a cab, TIME IS MONEY, and it’s simply not worth it to take an outer borough trip where you come back to the city empty, AND have to sit in traffic. That being said, an experienced driver ALSO knows that your money balances out, and if you have one bad day, chances are the next day will be better. I have had fair jumpers, but I approached it with a good attitude, and got really great tips for the rest of the day. I think we all need to be ZEN cab drivers and take the middle road.

  26. tren on March 13, 2011 at 8:12 pm said:

    simple solution – paint big 5″ color dot special place on NYC yellow cabs, the color dot will show where the cab to be returned after shift — bronx, brooklyn, queens, maybe even staten island. Some drivers for individual medallions can put a color dot on their cab showing where they must go to return cab. Of course, this is too logical for the NYC TLC group, who must somehow manage to make money for Greenbaum and Sherman no matter what small wrinkle. Then Penn station guy can say, hail a cab from the street with a ” color ” dot on the right side of it. That way, there is a MATCH.

  27. new yorker on April 6, 2011 at 1:00 pm said:

    i take cab everyday , without yellow cab NYC will be dead, who ever complain about cab driver they are wrong , what about all the BS they go through no one back them up, what about the time when they go to brooklyn or queens or bronx most rider jump out with out paying and some time they tell the cabies to wait outside , and cabies wait for hours and they never showed up..I THINK CABBIES HAVE RIGHT TO REFUES , IF THEY DONT FEEL SAFE

  28. Cab #7L10 ripped me off! on June 4, 2011 at 6:24 am said:

    Wow this is rediculous… I was refused a ride to Brooklyn (from a Manhattan hotel) 3 times in a row this afternoon! Usually I take the train because its cheaper and easier, but this weekend my 80 yr old grandmother is visiting the city and can not walk more than a NY block before having to stop to rest. But when I finally got a cab, the guy asks ME how to get ot my destination.. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!? If a cab driver does not know how to get to a certain area, why doesnt he have a map? THIS is why I’m for GPS in every cab.

    Sure I understand that cab drivers need to make it to a certain location by the end of their shift, but my grandmother and I were refused a ride to BK 3 times in a row with 3 different excuses. One guy needed to get to back to Queens (if that was really true, then why not tell me you need a fare to Queens before driving me 2 blocks down the road?) The next guy made an excuse under his breath, and apologized repeatedly until we exited his cab. The third guy just flat out said no (when i asked through his window if he would take us to Brooklyn)!

    So I was relieved when someone finally agreed to takes us there. But can I tell you how annoying it is to get over the bridge and then have the cabbie ask me, “Which way do I go?” Really man??!!?? So we asked someone for directions, and I thanked the man. The cabbie then drove one block, made a turn, then turns to me and asks me again, “Where do I go??” So I say to him, “Are you joking? That guy just gave you the directions and you didnt follow them. I have no idea where we are!” So he drives another block and asks another guy directions.. and its the same thing again. He drives one block then asks me, “Where do I go?” COME ON MAN! REALLY???? So we proceed to drive in circles and I’m desperately trying to get a friend on my cellphone to search google maps for our destination. Except the cabbie wont pull over and i cant get an acurate location on the cross streets.. So I ultimately just got really fustrated and asked him to pull over and let us out. I was in the middle of effin BK and had to call anoter friend to get me a car service to finally get to where i was going…

    If this is you guys’ idea of customers being irrate for no reason, then you need to get off your high horse and see it from the customer’s perspective. IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE to have a cab driver drive someone to an area and not have a GPS system or at least a road map when they dont know the area. ..and THAT is B.S.

    And just for the record, this IS NOT the first and only time. When I first moved here about 7 yrs ago, it may have happened a couple times.. but now it happens way too often.. Now I understand why the fine has been raised! This situation happend in cab #7L10

  29. Rob O'Brien on June 5, 2011 at 9:45 pm said:

    If you tried to catch the cab at about 4pm -5pm it could be true that the shift change for most. if not, you got screwed!

  30. farah amin on June 5, 2011 at 10:03 pm said:

    Why doesnt TLC make customers pay for outer boroughs first,,,with $ or cc?
    If fare is less they get return funds? Its so simple. The tlc doesnt care if the passenger runs away. They say file police report, then we lose $50 more for waiting in police station?

  31. Dustin Manning on June 19, 2011 at 5:24 am said:

    My three friends and I (two young ladies and another male) just off of work early morning w/ cash in hand were refused by 5 cabs. Trying to get home to Bushwick was horrendous. Yellow Cab? Never again; ever!

  32. MARIO on February 3, 2012 at 8:31 pm said:

    We, as drivers and riding public, are all victims of incompetent system of NYC transportation. Tell me any other mode of mobility within NYC which is smooth, efficient, hassle free making sence: MTA subway, bus, car service, pedicap, bike, horse carriage, food vendor cart, delivery truck, discout long distant bus, ferry, preventible elevator or helicopter accident – as I mentioned it, I have an eerie feeling of one coming soon, knock knock. I had it myself and I am determined to do something to solve the ongoing problem at least this outerboro refusal by taxi in innovative way. This has to be solved for five boroughs under the one name of great NYC. See what contribution we will make to the development of Bushwick community if residents have easy access to Manhattan. Our adorable mayor ( I mean it he brought 55 million record tourists last year) needs some help. I pledge myself here openly so that I make myself more committed and accountable.

  33. MARIO on February 3, 2012 at 10:32 pm said:

    This outerboro cab plan may be good for residents but only intraboro not interboro needs. Queen-based cab will refuse to go to Staten Island or Bronx, and Bronx to Staten Island. They all should hate to come to Manhattan in theory but they will love to come into Manhattan let’s say in evening. Now how passengers will return to their boros late at night? By yellow cabs legally in theory, but they will take available outerboro cabs conveniently. Now the city made a precedent whatever illegal practiced long enough will be recognized and rewarded into legality. Maybe illegal gun buying too? Now I am going too far off the subject. The big difference is restrained practice with illegality keeping undesirable outcomes at bay versus rampant practice with legality right in front of face. This game constraints are: 1> more outerboro residents will come into exclusive yellow cab territory which is Manhattan 2> illegal for other cabs to pick up 3> yellow cabs don’t like to go outerboro when busy but can’t allow outerboro cabs picking up either. THE WINNER OF THE GAME IS: THE ONE who will enable all passengers to go out of Manhattan paying no extra fare without any refusal by Yellow Cabdrivers who will LOVE to go anytime anywhere in NYC. Nobody solved this so far. I like to solve it in an innovative way.

  34. Danielle on February 16, 2012 at 12:43 pm said:

    I think this is a very important topic, I am a 25 yo woman that bartends so I usually get out in the evening or at night, I’ve been refused a ride by cab drivers many many times. They don’t seem to care if you’re a girl or if you have no other way of getting home. After a while I started reading up on the law and was shocked to discover it is illegal to refuse a ride (I live in Brooklyn). Now I always get in the cab first before telling them where I need to go. Recently a cab driver dropped me off, the fare wa s $16.00, AFTER paying him AND tipping him, he complains that he is in ‘Black city’ now and he wasted his time coming here! What??? Really?? I have encountered ignorance like this too many times and its just outrageous. When I do encounter a friendly and courteous cabbie (that doesn’t mutter under his breath or ask me how far when I mention Brooklyn). They tell me it’s unfortunate most cabbies act like that and advise me to report unacceptable behavior. I am 100% in favor of these fines!

  35. MARIO on February 16, 2012 at 6:31 pm said:

    Please read two comments written by me just before your posting. I pledge here one more time that I WILL GO THROUGH TLC PROCEDURE TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM ONCE AND FOR ALL. Just give me some time by this summer. I have a dozen more innovative solutions to improve taxi service for drivers and 300 million riders a year(? this I am not sure). I studied French in my country which is not good at making money but I studied marketing in US and I will do my work to increase the size of pie currently shrinking and nibbled up by rats and bugs. We have problems in four Ps: Product (taxi service nobody is doing nothing new in this system) Place (distribution of service to outerboros) Promotion (except for all others on rooftops) Price (fare and leasing fee). I found my purpose.

  36. tony fox on February 16, 2012 at 7:43 pm said:

    Hello DANEILLE …Sorry your having a hard time …BUT The Drivers HAVENT Seen a Fare Increase in 8 yrs and counting ..The 50 cent MTA charge is not for us..We PAY 5% to collect ANY Credit Card Charges …DO YOU ?….The main reason Outer boro rides Sux , Because we have to come back EMPTY Most of the time = Zero Income..Strange how the Folks in NJ Not complaining when we DOUBLE the meter when LEAVING city Limits…Maybe thats a solution…? Leave NYC double meter ?…Its JUST a Matter of Economics Dan. as MOST drivers Have to CLEAR At least $150 Lease fees and gas ,before making a NICKEL ! ….Do You pay to be on YOUR JOB ?…And you cannot IMAGINE the traffic and Police harrassment…Drivers Face….EVERYDAY !!!

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