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Hail no? Taxi app has enemies in high places

Posted by Brooklyn Mark on March 7, 2013
Photos: Queens-Politics.com, New York Post

Council Members Rodriguez and Crowley deny connection between the donations and lawsuit.

Two New York City Council members have sided with livery groups suing the city to block implementation of an e-hail program that would allow passengers to use smartphone apps to find a ride, according to a report by Capital New York.

Councilwoman Liz Crowley said that, as an outer-borough representative, she worried the e-hail program would enable discrimination by drivers, while Councilman Ydanis Rodriguez said the new rules unfairly favor yellow cabs over livery services, according to the report. Both council members have received donations from livery interests, but both also told Capital New York that those donations have nothing to do with choosing to make this stand.

In its report, the New York Observer added that New York Taxi and Limousine Commission officials are particularly keen on instituting the e-hail program since drivers spend about 40 percent of their time searching for fares. Furthermore, contra to Crowley’s assertion, the TLC believes e-hail will actually provide incentive for drivers to seek passengers outside of Manhattan, in less-dense areas.

25 thoughts on “Hail no? Taxi app has enemies in high places”

  1. sunman on March 7, 2013 at 12:03 pm said:

    Power to drivers, get rid of blood suckers and their medallions!

  2. david on March 7, 2013 at 8:03 pm said:

    Dispatching systems were made for car services and limousines with the base location.and yellow cabs were made for street hails only only only..
    Car services and limousine served for a long time bad neighborhoods a toughest people to deal with like the rich plus they get the job done for long distance trips .but sometimes they pickup illegally in the streets when yellow cabs drivers refuse to provide services due to personnel reasons.
    The only difference between yellow taxi and car service is the dispatching policy, this is the only red line in between them and no one has right to Cross over .
    What is the dispatching rules ,is the Connection between the client and the base.
    What is the base ,is a dispatching agent that provide cars to the clients.
    So are these apps to be considered as base, the answer is yes .
    So yellow medallion can not have a dispatching base.
    You like it or not.
    Is it good for yellow cab drivers to have ehails,?the answer is no. because it will force them to get more trips and pay more money to medallion owners,…….
    tlc used uneducated drivers to make medallion owners rich, but yellow drivers will never ever buy his own medallion therefore yellow business has become illegal because the yellow cab driver works for both the bank and the public with means he has to give more twice energy as black car or limousine.
    If people want cheap transportation they must use other companies services ,is time for change.beybey medallions the blood suckers.
    Yellow cabs can not have dispatching agent period.welcome uber an haillon,itaxi
    IAm quitting yellow and going to register with uber.
    Yellow cab garages don’t deserve our blood, serious, nor the tlc nor people ever respect yellow cabs, last month I got 6 tickets,äll from checkpoint I don’t know they ripping off cabbies and they want them to pay for sandy huriccain.,made a. Big mistake driving yellow,

  3. david on March 7, 2013 at 9:16 pm said:

    NEW YORK (Reuters) – A pilot program that would allow people in New York City to hail yellow cabs using a smartphone app was blocked by a judge on Thursday, handing a victory to private car companies that have said the program threatens their business.

    Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Carol Huff granted a request from the livery companies to freeze the new “e-hail” program that had been scheduled to begin as early as Friday.

    The order will be in effect until at least March 18, when the two sides are due to return to court to argue the merits of a lawsuit brought by the livery companies against the city.

    The pilot program would allow people to use a phone application to request a yellow cab ride. Taxi drivers would be able to receive such requests and confirm pickup locations.

    Private car companies rely on prearranged pickups. Under New York’s two-prong cab system, yellow cabs handle street hails but cannot accept phone pickups; livery cars do the opposite.

    The program would be an option for New Yorkers accustomed to standing in the street and flagging down the city’s approximately 13,000 yellow cabs. E-hail apps like Uber and Hailo have become popular in other cities.

    (Reporting by Joseph Ax; Editing by Cynthia Johnston)

  4. donet on March 7, 2013 at 9:38 pm said:

    Here is the best solution for manhatan.I would suggest free electric buses and minivans in midtown 97st too down town .and two ways ezpass within 97 St fdr and Hudson pky and all bridges and tunnels .yellow cabs can be dispatched only bellow 97 St with double meter rate.each borough has its own rules.

  5. Frank on March 8, 2013 at 3:21 am said:

    Good. F@#k e-hailing. Keep yellows for street hails; liveries for pre-arranged pickups and impound the hustlers. This pilot program is just the city screwing with the status quo to see if they can squeeze more money out of both the yellow and livery industries.

  6. sunman on March 8, 2013 at 11:02 am said:

    David, you are the man. Finally,there is a chance for drivers start making real money. Yellow garbage can rely on illigals. If your papers are allright you got no business driving sweat shop on wheels. Quit the slavery, drive car service cabs in Brooklyn. no more rents ,bribing dispatchers, beat up ,smelly junk.

  7. sunman on March 8, 2013 at 11:10 am said:

    They should install roof lights and meters in all Brooklyn cabs. SCREW MEDALLION MORONS .

  8. sunman on March 8, 2013 at 11:25 am said:

    Medallion owners- DIE IN HELL PARASITES!!!!!!!!!!!

  9. david on March 8, 2013 at 12:02 pm said:

    Sunman! Can u provide us with car service base that has good cars. We are 35 drivers willing to switch to car service. We are leaving the garbage can. Thank you

  10. sunman on March 8, 2013 at 12:47 pm said:

    David, I wish you guys best luck, unfortunately, I gave up on taxi long time ago, but I still follow of what is going on. As an American citizen I am discassted of what is going on in my country. I hate to see people who don’t do absolutely nothing and making 2-3 times more than drivers struggling everyday. My true heroes. I can only suggest that one day you guys will get a CDL license. Believe me, your experience counts. You learned how to deal with all types of people, you know how to talk to cops, you are great careful drivers after all. Don’t give up, and if you ever be intrested in 18 wheelers I ‘ll provide you guys with tons of valuable information!

  11. sunman on March 8, 2013 at 2:54 pm said:

    America is not an African colony. Nelson Mandela kicked your ass and now you found your safe heaven in New York ? Wait till next mayor will take office. You’ll be running like cockoroaches !

  12. BUTTER on March 9, 2013 at 1:05 am said:

    If you review the medallion prices since 1970 you see that medallion prices went up up and driver’ income went down with an increase of the driver’ working hours. You can’t respect tourists without respecting your cabbies. The French say No to a tip. Because the banks, brokers do take in consideration our tip.

  13. fox on March 9, 2013 at 7:17 pm said:

    butter ???
    You are 100% right, if they rip-off cabbies then cabbies will rip-off tourist easy, then tourist won’t come back.
    They must think twice.

  14. Just a cabby? on March 10, 2013 at 7:02 am said:

    What consumers like matters the most. How efficiently people can moveatters the most. Regular yellowcab passengers like the option of taxi app depending on time n location on NYC. Magazines n newspaper all moved in to tablet PC. New app, new thinking. Do u still use public phone? Or landline phone with cords? Or dial 777-7777?

  15. Just a cabby? on March 10, 2013 at 7:12 am said:

    Sorry for many typing mistakes. Btw, do u still use typewriter? Corona stop manufacturing typewriter long time ago. Barnes n Nobles struggle for retail business. LC location to Century 21. Tower Record no more CD store due to MPplayer. But U can still buy vynal record somewhere in NY. Cruel maybe things change.

  16. Just a cabby? on March 10, 2013 at 7:30 am said:

    David, it’s e-hailing, extension of street hailing with superman’s vision n whistling, not dispatching. Or it’s new kind of self-dispatching. DIY dispatching of yellow or black, it doesn’t matter from passenger’s point of view. Riders’ choice n option matters the most. E-hailing doesn’t belong to traditional concepts of street hailing or dispatching. It’s a new breed of transportation using relatively old tech called GPS. Therefore it shouldn’t be monopolized by any. Paying Consumer Group’s option n Efficient Logistics matter the most. The best system is what revolves around two.

  17. david on March 10, 2013 at 8:25 am said:

    Yellow cab drivers will never benefit from e-hail, they will be forces to give more
    money to garages brokers and medallion owners, cops will issue more tickets for blocking traffic or double standing, rich heads wouldnt wait for you if they see an other empty cab infront of them, gangs and drug dealer would take advantage of the yellow cab app, prostitutes too have smart phones, Drivers will be called only for special occasion. Outer-boroughs will complain more than ever for not been able to get a cab over the app.
    The medallions are fedup already they don’t need anymore money.
    Take my solution; the tlc must install computerized vending mashines that calls for yellow taxi with extra money near all bus stops.

  18. sunman on March 11, 2013 at 9:00 am said:

    Uber should come up with the app for metered fare.. Everyone will know how much the fare costs withot using any stationary meters. it might easily utilize GPS. And for roof light? Sign on a dush board saying “free” would be enough. Brooklyn and “yellow” don’t mix!

  19. sunman on March 11, 2013 at 9:11 am said:

    Good thing about Brooklyn that there is enough money only for taxi drivers and nobody else. Banks, medallion thieves, fleets, no way they can get involved. If they start coming with their great ideas , they will be driving cabs themselves.

  20. sunman on March 11, 2013 at 10:05 am said:

    The best thing is to by a brand new MKZ Lincoln, use apps and slowly built your own client base. You don’t need anybody else!

  21. Taxi sultan on March 16, 2013 at 4:33 pm said:

    Bless an idiot!

  22. Experienced Hack on March 19, 2013 at 9:46 am said:

    Today is suppose to be decision day. May the best color cab win. Peace.

  23. sunman on March 19, 2013 at 4:19 pm said:

    Chances of Quinn to become next NYC mayor are slightly less than being striked by lightning. Sharpton or Hispanic candidates are close to a 50 % range.

  24. sunman on March 20, 2013 at 1:11 pm said:

    Everyone I know talks about leaving this country. It’s nothing to do here. No jobs, no money, only pay bills.

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Article Comments

  • Disappointed: Really, TLC fined garages $110,000, I am sure TLC fine drviers 10 times more of...
  • Disappointed: Is this mean black cars can pick up on street in manhattan? this have TLC...
  • king: Cabbie job is for single man, not for married. It is impossible to keep up driving full...
  • sam: ha ha $350 fine for garage, very good penalty to commit wrong act again to drivers. Poor...
  • reed: What is the defintion of legal .., the term freedom came too late after they secured land,...
  • Common Sence: Yes, this is a great day….
  • Common Sence: Experienced Hack: 1. The chances the appeals court will reverse the lower courts...
  • Experienced Hack: Who’s willing to lend against a new medallion when The City Of New York...
  • Disappointed: POOR???? Is this word exist on his dictionary? he does not know what poor mean..lol
  • turkishfastdriver: I worked with Mr. Shermans fleet back in 2003-2006 . I ve never been a real...
  • reed: can group of drivers like 6 drivers buy their own medallion together??
  • CreditCardCabbie: Did Ken Fisher have good questions to Commissioner David Yassky in this video?...
  • sam: sad M. Bloomberg, refund commission $$$ to Nissan now, poor Bloomberg
  • C-DUBBZ: I totally agree with ya first prius cabbie!…they are scumbag owners who charged...
  • Anonymous: we due respect to the handicapped, it will not be fair to put all the cabs...
  • first prius cabbie: The Sonomax in Greenpoint were the worst. I hope they got a large fine. They...
  • Sam: TLC commission is just to heavier the garages pocket $$$ not the regulation of taxi...
  • JJ: If I want to find a particular driver and use them again because I liked the service, how do...
  • Just a cabby?: I don’t think general public will be interested in yellow cab related...
  • Taxi sultan: Now I am old I have only one dream To work one day rent free. I asked old Stanley to...
  • Taxi sultan: CCC. The owner I worked for, passed away and his kids inherented medallion. They...
  • sidewalk: So what are we waiting for now, can’t pay my rent and can’t live in an apt...
  • syco: What about garages who charged drivers, what about black cars who made money and left cabs...
  • CreditCardCabbie: to Sunman! … Do you know why? Because in America, almost everyone,...
  • sunman: Just a cabby? Enjoy your capitalism. Any other country in the world will try to improve...
  • Just a cabby?: Common Sense, competition is open for one year. So let’s see with patience,...
  • sunman: A tiny beacon of freedom shined through the dark clouds for NYC taxi drivers. The daily...
  • Disappointed: Hey TLC, how about counter sueing the black car group for illegal street hail and...
  • Just a cabby?: Again, the most important group, app using consumers are missing here. What do...
  • Just a cabby?: NYC is not the first city in the world who like to use this App. Many precedents...

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